What to expect from Blue Jays moving Guerrero Jr. to first base

Jamie Campbell, Dan Shulman and Joe Siddall discuss the Blue Jays decision to move Vladimir Guerrero Jr. away from third. And with a pair of intrasquad games set to air on Sportsnet, the broadcast team explain what fans can expect to see.

The throw from Trent Thornton was a little high and Vladimir Guerrero Jr., plucked it out of the air with his mitt, pulled it down quickly and said something audible only to Thornton, Bo Bichette and a few others including first base coach Luis Rivera. Chuckles all around. Thornton smiled broadly. Maybe some day, we’ll know whether Guerrero deep down expected he’d eventually move across the diamond. Maybe.

John Schneider managed Guerrero, Jr., at single-A Dunedin and double-A New Hampshire when he was blazing his way through the Toronto Blue Jays minor league system, back when the organization was determined he’d be a third baseman. Guerrero, Jr., is no dummy, so it stands to reason that he heard comments about how his weight and defensive deficiencies were going to necessitate a shift across the diamond.

Guerrero must surely have been aware that the major difference in his game and that of his Hall of Fame father was defence, in particular a god-gifted arm that Guerrero, Sr., used as a weapon in right field. Had to, right? “From what I remember,” said Schneider, now a Blue Jays major league coach, “when it did come up he’d just kind of smile, shrug and say ‘I’ll do my best.’”

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The first live-action baseball to be broadcast from Rogers Centre in 2020 airs this week as the Blue Jays gear up for the start of the season with intrasquad games on July 14th and 15th, both at 6:30 p.m. ET / 3:30 p.m. PT on Sportsnet, SN NOW, and Sportsnet 590 The Fan.

Even a little live quarantine batting practice is too good an opportunity to let pass for the Blue Jays new first baseman. On this night, Guerrero would be shadowed by third base coach and infield instructor Luis Rivera, who stood in the first base coaches box at the Rogers Centre as Guerrero tried to approximate as much as possible the type of plays he’d need to make. At one point, Rivera counted out nine steps and pointed to some sort of marker for Guerrero to position himself. Infielders such as Santiago Espinal and Bo Bichette were told to bounce throws, flip throws, fiddle around with arm angles. “Vlady’s awesome,” Thornton said later. “Everyone is in his corner. It’s nothing that crazy, in my opinion. Just a different side of the field.”

Other than the catcher and pitcher, there is no position that touches the ball as much as the first baseman. Yet when Montoyo announced the move last week, the only sound was a huge sigh of relief from Blue Jays fans who cringed at Guerrero’s play at third in his 2019 rookie season. Guerrero at third was one of those areas of convergence where the eye test matched the analytics.

There was a sense of inevitability to the move; the only question was how it would be sold to Guerrero. Face-saving measure? A means of freeing up his mind to just rake and hit bombs at the plate? A move spurred by the acquisition of the kind of free-agent who would put the team over the top? A move brought on by the drafting and development of a star third baseman ready to play every day, right now? Clearly, this was more because of the first two notions – no disrespect to Travis Shaw or Jordan Groshans.

So, what should we expect?

“I’ve always said if you can play third base, you can play first,” said Schneider. “At third, you’re asked to do so much. You’re moving backward and forward and laterally. Yes, he’s going to see the ball off the bat differently, but it probably won’t be coming as fast. The biggest thing for (Guerrero) is going to be getting used to having to hold the runner … to get his pre-pitch set-up down, both for lefty hitters and righties. But I think he’s going to be fine. People just see a guy who was always destined to be a superstar. They don’t see the work ethic and what a good teammate he is.”

I remember an interview in August, 2018, with Bobby Meacham, who managed Guerrero at triple-A Buffalo and talked up his baseball I.Q. “Everybody talks about ‘making adjustments’ in this game,” said Meacham, “and in order to do that you need to be able to retain information and apply it the next time somebody mentions it to you. That’s what Vladdy is like; you don’t have to tell him things three or four times.”

About the difference between Guerrero, Jr.’s defence and Guerrero, Sr.? Make no mistake: you could stand near the elder Guerrero in spring training and when he felt like it he’d unleash one of those throws you could hear coming out of his hand and then he’d look over at you, smiling. Yet in his career, he had just one more outfield assist from right (126) than he was charged with errors (125.) In fact, it wasn’t until his fifth full season that he recorded a year with more assists than errors. His defensive metrics weren’t great: he could be scatter-armed, and he could take some mightily unhinged routes to balls. Comparatively, the best right-fielder I covered with the Montreal Expos, Hall of Famer Larry Walker, had 150 assists out of that position … and committed 47 errors.

All of which is to say that it took Guerrero, Sr., time to harness his talents. His body went through changes, too, although he was never as hefty as his son and he didn’t have to endure the scrutiny his son will not get. How will Guerrero, Jr., handle the attention that will come with this move? Back to that talk with Meacham, who like Schneider would tell the player that he was always going to be a focal point, that he would never be able to blend into the background or be, simply, Employee No. 27. His teammates, opponents, fans … coaches … would always know where he was and what he was doing. The game won’t let him hide. It never does.


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This is the first of what will be a baseball-only Monday column. Jeff Blair hosts Writers Bloc with Stephen Brunt and Richard Deitsch from 3-5 p,m, ET on Sportsnet 590/The Fan and co-hosts Canada’s only national radio soccer show, A Kick In The Grass with Dan Riccio on Monday nights along the Sportsnet Radio Network. Starting July 20, he will host Baseball Central with Kevin Barker from 2-3 p.m. ET.

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